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Office of Chehalis Basin Public Meeting - Shared screen with speaker view
Deborah Johnson
34:29
lost audio
Jared Ross LIUNA
34:46
No Sound
Tess Brandon
34:46
Not just you
*Vickie Raines
34:47
lost audio...
Colleen Granberg
34:59
Us too
Deborah Johnson
35:39
It was right when the screenshare started so I think it kicked him out
STEVE HINTON
39:50
#3 is not allowing for multiple selections
Mara Zimmerman
39:51
@Ken - Q3 only allows one response but says that we should be able to choose multiple responses.
Deborah Johnson
40:05
Need "none of the above" on Q.3
*Edna J. Fund
40:09
Mara is right
Betsie DeWreede
40:57
Yeah, I hit submit before I realized. I'm a resident and volunteer and...can't remember other choices.
Duane Bryant
41:09
I hope wedont use this data in its flawed form
Linda Orgel & RD Grunbaum
47:01
frozen?
Linda Orgel & RD Grunbaum
47:13
no audio
Steve Emrich
01:02:22
Not able to choose any. Don’t see it
Duane Bryant
01:07:15
In years past I have served on the chehalis Basin Fisheries task force. I chaired the Lewis county Flood advisory committee, I was founder of the Upper Chehalis Fisheries Enhancement Association (spearheaded the reintroduction of 300,000 salmon in upper watershed above Chehalis res. I grew up in PeEll and own property and Business in Ceentralia and PeEll, as well as South of Chehalis.
*Ken Ghalambor (ZOOM HOST)
01:07:56
Here is a link to the ASRP Phase 1 document Nat is discussing: https://chehalisbasinstrategy.com/asrp/asrp-phase-i-draft-plan/
*Jim Kramer (Facilitator)
01:08:00
Thanks Duane! It is great to you and your experience.
Duane Bryant
01:08:35
?
Brett Swift
01:08:45
Are the presentations publicly available?
*Ken Ghalambor (ZOOM HOST)
01:09:19
Brett, tonight's presentation and a recording of the meeting will be available on the chehalisbasinstrategy.com website a few days after the meeting
Brett Swift
01:09:56
Thank you!
Frank Corbin
01:10:54
How many fish are we talking about when you covered the COHO and Spring Chinook decline in percentages?
*Ken Ghalambor (ZOOM HOST)
01:10:55
Recordings of the November 2020 and February 2021 meetings are already available to view: https://chehalisbasinstrategy.com/
STEVE HINTON
01:10:56
Are these numbers being adjusted for inflation?
*Jim Kramer (Facilitator)
01:11:53
Steve, the costs are in current dollars and not adjusted for inflation.
Duane Bryant
01:12:51
Have the changes in Weyerhauser logging plans been factored in?
Deborah Johnson
01:13:48
It won't allow submittal if no answer to Q.2
Tess Brandon
01:14:31
I am also unable. The "submit" button is greyed out
Mara Zimmerman
01:14:34
I have the same problem as Deborah. We have to answer Q2 to respond.
Tess Brandon
01:14:38
So I just picked something random for Q2
*Nat Kale (Office of Chehalis Basin)
01:16:34
nkal461@ecy.wa.gov
james martinez
01:18:35
What impact would the “temporary” reservoir have on salmon habitat?
Duane Bryant
01:18:37
What is capacity of reservoir at full capacity before overspill?
Duane Bryant
01:18:49
in acre feet ?
Karen Davis
01:19:04
What would happen to the vegetation around the river if the dam were built? Would it be logged and cleared in anticipation of when the reservoir were full?
Duane Bryant
01:20:24
What would happen to the thin layer of soils over the rock substrate after a fill event? would it slide down into the river bed?
*Ken Ghalambor (ZOOM HOST)
01:20:31
SEPA public comments available here: https://chehalisbasinstrategy.com/eis/sepa-process/
Emelie McKain
01:20:43
@Frank Corbin the graphs Nat displayed on potential declines are modeled fish numbers based on a habitat model that projects the amount of fish habitat can support. In the model, if no restoration actions are taken, coho are projected to decline from approx. 80,000 to approx. 50,000 by 2080, and for spring chinook 1,600 down to approx. 500 by 2080 if no actions are taken. With actions taken through the ASRP the model projects those salmon species to increase in potential abundance. Please feel free to contact me for any further information at Emelie.McKain@dfw.wa.gov
*Ken Ghalambor (ZOOM HOST)
01:20:51
NEPA public comments available here: https://chehalisbasinstrategy.com/eis/nepa-process/
*Ken Ghalambor (ZOOM HOST)
01:21:22
Chehalis River Basin Flood Control Zone District information available here: https://www.chehalisriverbasinfczd.com/
*Jim Kramer (Facilitator)
01:21:24
Duane, the facility is designed to hold over 65,000 acre feet and has freeboard above that level before water would go over the spillway. In response to your other question, logging plans by private companies are not factored into the analyses.
Duane Bryant
01:21:33
Have you ever tried to raise spring chinook?
Duane Bryant
01:22:05
Do you know that these fish are true wild native fish (sping Chinook)
STEVE HINTON
01:22:30
Who at the ACOE is the point of contact for the project?
*Ken Ghalambor (ZOOM HOST)
01:22:52
Steve, the ACOE point of contact can be found here: https://chehalisbasinstrategy.com/eis/nepa-process/
*Jim Kramer (Facilitator)
01:23:18
Bob Thomas is the lead person at the ACOE.
STEVE HINTON
01:23:25
Thank you
Duane Bryant
01:23:25
with 65000 acre feet, how long would it take to fill at 60,000 cfs, which was the flow under the PeEll bridge.
lee first
01:23:59
Who will own the flood retention facility (dam) if it is built?
STEVE HINTON
01:24:10
ACOE Contact
STEVE HINTON
01:24:16
Environmental ContactBrandon ClintonCorps EIS Project Managerph: (206) 316-3164
*Jim Kramer (Facilitator)
01:24:35
Duane, you are asking a number of detailed questions that we will have to answer later.
Cynthia Wilson
01:24:47
Where would I find the mitigation for the Aberdeen North shore levee?
Duane Bryant
01:25:01
who will decide to open a flood gate if the dam were to be under risk of overtop, or would they need to ever open to release pressure?
Duane Bryant
01:25:33
:-) Im sorry I am an inquisitive guy
*Ken Ghalambor (ZOOM HOST)
01:25:53
Cynthia, you can contact cityengineer@aberdeenwa.gov for more detailed questions regarding the North Shore Levee
lee first
01:26:00
Will the North Shore levee protect the Port of Grays Harbor infrastructure?
Duane Bryant
01:28:58
The Dillembaugh and stearns creek are both salmon bearing streams?
Zoltán Grossman / Debi McNutt
01:29:50
What range of sediment load would the FRF withhold from the river system, and is part of the study how blocking sediment might affect estuary buildup (such as at Westport and Ocean Shores) over time?
lee first
01:30:16
Did OCB funds pay to replace the dam on Mill Creek?
Deborah Johnson
01:31:04
Since you mention water wells...that is my area of interest, protection of Group A/B public water system infrastructure.
*Ken Ghalambor (ZOOM HOST)
01:31:06
Lee, Scott Boettcher (Flood Authority staff) can help answer questions about how OCB funds were used on local projects: scottb@sbgh-partners.com
STEVE HINTON
01:34:11
Is there a specific inventory available for the structures at risk in the basin? Especially in the Adna to Grand Mound zone?
Donna Albert
01:34:36
Why would new construction be allowed in a floodplain?
Karen Davis
01:34:51
YES! WHY
*Jim Kramer (Facilitator)
01:35:37
We have inventoried the structures in the mainstem floodplain.
*Jim Kramer (Facilitator)
01:36:23
Land use management to address future development is part of the Chehalis Board discussions.
STEVE HINTON
01:36:39
Is it available? I was not able to locate this date in neither the SEPA or NEPA analysis.
STEVE HINTON
01:36:58
Is it available? I was not able to locate this data in neither the SEPA or NEPA analysis.
Felton Jenkins
01:37:03
Need to also work hand in hand with forestland owners (public & private) higher in the basin.
*Jim Kramer (Facilitator)
01:37:18
Summary information on the structures is available in several reports.
lee first
01:38:04
Could someone please put the link to the inventory in the chat?
STEVE HINTON
01:38:27
I would like to have access to specific data on the valuation and risk of the inventoried structures. Not summary reports.
Duane Bryant
01:39:24
me 2 separated by Residence vs barns outbuildings and comercial
Duane Bryant
01:40:00
? are you sure about that?
Duane Bryant
01:41:38
I am not sure if I heard that right. Was it just said that cross breading spring and fall Chinook is leading to the down fall of Chinook?
John Henricksen
01:41:51
as a matter of fact new construction is not being permitted in the FEMA defined flood plain in Lewis County. can’t speak for other municipalities in the basin FYI the area inside the airport levee is NOT in the defined flood plain because of the levee
*Jim Kramer (Facilitator)
01:41:56
Donna, we are providing information on climate change to the local governments.
*Jim Kramer (Facilitator)
01:43:33
Duane, cross-breeding on the spawning grounds has been identified as one of several problems for spring chinook.
John Newman
01:43:39
When was the WRIA boundary moved west to include western Ocean Shores which actually drains into the Pacific Ocean not into the Chehalis River?
Duane Bryant
01:43:59
lol
Morgan Wolff
01:44:09
When it come to land management, what efforts are being made to change upper basin logging practices. Clearcutting of steep slopes greatly increases erosion and sedimentation, while all tree removal greatly reduces the water holding capacity of soils and the forest as a whole. It seems that logging profits are being subsidized by projects like these as well as causing the economic damage that result from the flooding.
Jon Harwood
01:44:35
When additional information is available linking forest harvest practices to hydrology, could the Board make additional recommendations?
Morgan Wolff
01:48:42
Thanks Karen! Great points!
Donna Albert
01:49:12
Exactly, Karen. Thank you.
*Ken Ghalambor (ZOOM HOST)
01:49:24
https://www.chehalisriverbasinfczd.com/
Karen Davis
01:49:53
Thanks Morgan and Donna!
Linda Orgel - Arthur Grunbaum
01:50:07
Thank you Karen. We agree with your assessment.
Donna Albert
01:51:56
The Draft EIS showed the dam option resulted in the greatest decline in salmon runs. Look it up.
lee first
01:52:24
Is there a timekeeper for comments?
Zoltán Grossman / Debi McNutt
01:52:47
Is there consideration of rehydrating the upper reaches of the river using beaver reintroduction (or mimicking beaver dams with upriver flood storage areas) like the Tulalip Beaver Project, which “relocates ‘nuisance’ beavers from suburban areas to hydrologically impaired tributaries in the upper Snohomish Watershed for the improvement of fish rearing habitat and fresh water storage.” https://crosscut.com/2018/11/fix-salmon-streams-leave-it-beavers
Ron Figlar-Barnes
01:52:56
Check out the mud mountain dam, same type with endangered salmon!
Karen Davis
01:55:15
YES! Thanks, Duane.
Morgan Wolff
01:56:07
Thanks for the balanced persepective
trudy marcellay
01:56:24
thank you Duane
Tammy Domike
01:56:45
Thank you, Duane.
Karen Davis
01:58:02
AMEN!!!!!!
Sue Davis
01:58:05
We are opposed to a flood retention project, dam. The first thing that should be done is to stop filling the floodplain, paving, and developing. We will never solve damaging flooding if we keep restricting the river channel and putting development in its way.
Karen Davis
02:00:52
You can have our dams!
Morgan Wolff
02:01:26
I live and own land in the affected area, and strongly oppose the dam.
Duane Bryant
02:01:56
Hauled hay near your farm as a kid Katherine have seen the damage there
Duane Bryant
02:03:32
greed Joe
Duane Bryant
02:03:38
agreed
Betsie DeWreede
02:04:23
Duane of Bryant Auto Sales? I'd like to put my friend in touch with you. We agree with you.
Morgan Wolff
02:04:44
Hi Betsie!
Betsie DeWreede
02:05:12
Hi Morgan!
Betsie DeWreede
02:06:20
I also live and lease my farmland to a thriving farmer. I am opposed to the dam solution. Logging and development practices are in dire need of limits.
Ron Figlar-Barnes
02:08:50
Corp NEPA is flawed. You do not know what will occur in the future to salmon--certainly we do know what a dam will do to salmon habitat above the dam.
John Henricksen
02:13:25
Jim and Andrea: John H. here please in future meetings hold people to the time they are supposed to be allowed to make their comments.
Sue Davis
02:13:41
Send out mailings occasionally to residents in the watershed
lee first
02:13:50
Does OCB put notices in the Chronicle or the World? You might get more people if you advertise it in the local papers.
COL (Ret) RONALD AVERILL
02:13:55
Building in the floodplain, paving & development is not unique to the Chehalis basin. Every Community in the State of Washington located in a river plain has built in it. The Chehalis Basin along the I-5 corridor has two cities that have had development since the 1850's. Two major contributors to build up of this area have been the railroads and the I-5 freeway, both with abundant fill. There are thousands of homes, businesses and industries in this flood plain already in existence. Removing them is both cost prohibitive and impractical.
trudy marcellay
02:14:24
I would like to hear about the pathway to stop this project. Let's use the billions of dollars available to raise the residences
Duane Bryant
02:14:37
one important thing to remember is that Weyerhauser, a large landowner upstream, has slowed its cultivation and is now wanting to be a realestate manager that slowing down will effect flooding
Jon Harwood
02:14:42
Is the DNR looking at forest practices in the Basin?
Duane Bryant
02:14:48
see ya in a few years :-)
lee first
02:15:24
Let’s have a meeting to talk about forest practices in the headwaters area.
Duane Bryant
02:15:28
Sorry to over use my time
Katherine Humphrey
02:15:48
There I am!
Patti Grinds
02:15:54
Duane, I thank you.
Karen Davis
02:15:59
I appreciate your input, Duane.
Linda Orgel - Arthur Grunbaum
02:16:30
Thank you Duane.
Sue Davis
02:16:44
Yes, but why keep developing in the floodplain when we know it will flood or push greater flooding to downstream properties.
Cynthia Wilson
02:17:37
Can we still submit comments on this set of meetings?
Felton Jenkins
02:17:59
I'm opposed to a flood retention project or dam. But I like your stream & habitat restoration work, thanks. Also we need to improve logging practices upstream & reduce development in the floodplain.
*Ken Ghalambor (ZOOM HOST)
02:18:01
Cynthia, you can email comments to info@chehalisbasinstrategy.com
Zoltán Grossman / Debi McNutt
02:18:09
@Duane Very helpful to hear your deeply rooted and long-term knowledge. Not helpful to be reinventing wheels all the time.
Duane Bryant
02:18:35
agreed
Zoltán Grossman / Debi McNutt
02:19:15
Would like to have a public forum in which tribes are offered a chance to address all the residents.
Duane Bryant
02:19:22
I would really love to here the narrative about the spring and fall chinook inter breeding